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Judemac
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« on: Jul 26, 2005, 03:21 »

Has Jeff Lynne ever worked with Sir George Martin? I do know that Jeff helped out on The Beatles Anthology material after George was said to be ill & could not handle it.
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« Reply #1 on: Jul 28, 2005, 02:44 »

Jeff co-produced two of the approximately seventy plus tracks.
Never heard anything about George Martin being ill at the time.
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 28, 2005, 03:57 »

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Jeff co-produced two of the approximately seventy plus tracks.
Never heard anything about George Martin being ill at the time.

I thought I heard it on my double CD version of "Zoom" Live in which I made with all the interviews from the DVD. I do know he was ill at the time though, I am certain of it. I mean, George Martin would have been there if he could have done it...
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 29, 2005, 05:56 »

Beatles Anthology 2:

Producers: Jeff Lynne, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, Ringo Starr (disc 1, track 1); George Martin (disc 1, tracks 2-8, 14-23; disc 2, tracks 2-12, 14-20); George Martin, Chris Thomas (disc 2, track 13). Compilation producer: George Martin. Engineers: Geoff Emerick, Jon Jacobs (disc 1, track 1); Norman Smith (disc 1, tracks 2-8, 14-16); Geoff Emerick (disc 1, tracks 17-23; disc 2, tracks 2-12, 14-15); Geoff Emerick, Jeff Jarratt (disc 2, track 13); Ken Scott (disc 2, tracks 16-18, 20); Ken Scott, Geoff Emerick (disc 2, track 19).

1. Real Love
  2. Yes It Is - (combination of take 2 and master)
  3. I'm Down - (take 1)
  4. You've Got To Hide Your Love Away - (take 5, mono)
  5. If You've Got Trouble - (previously unreleased)
  6. That Means A Lot - (previously unreleased)
  7. Yesterday - (take 1, Paul McCartney solo)
  8. It's Only Love - (false start and take 2, mono)
  9. I Feel Fine - (mono, live)
  10. Ticket To Ride - (mono, live)
  11. Yesterday - (mono, live)
  12. Help! - (mono, live)
  13. Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby - (mono, live)
  14. Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) - (take 1)
  15. I'm Looking Through You - (alternate take)
  16. 12-Bar Original - (previously unreleased)
  17. Tomorrow Never Knows - (take 1, "Mark 1")
  18. Got To Get You Into My Life - (take 5, mono)
  19. And Your Bird Can Sing - (take 2)
  20. Taxman - (take 11)
  21. Eleanor Rigby - (TRUE instrumental)
  22. I'm Only Sleeping - (mono, instrumental rehearsal instrumental)
  23. I'm Only Sleeping - (take 1, mono)
  24. Rock And Roll Music - (mono, live)
  25. She's A Woman - (mono, live)
   DISC 2:
  1. Strawberry Fields Forever - (mono, demo)
  2. Strawberry Fields Forever - (take 1)
  3. Strawberry Fields Forever - (take 7, mono)
  4. Penny Lane - (alternate mix)
  5. Day In The Life, A - (alternate take blend of alternate takes)
  6. Good Morning Good Morning - (take Cool
  7. Only A Northern Song - (alternate take blend of alternate takes)
  8. Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite! - (take takes 1 & 2)
  9. Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite! - (take 7)
  10. Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds - (alternate mix)
  11. Within You Without You - (TRUE instrumental)
  12. Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise) - (take 5, mono)
  13. You Know My Name (Look Up The Number) - (extended, stereo version)
  14. I Am The Walrus - (take 16)
  15. Fool On The Hill, The - (mono, Paul McCartney demo)
  16. Your Mother Should Know - (take 27)
  17. Fool On The Hill, The - (take 4, alternate version)
  18. Hello, Goodbye - (take 16)
  19. Lady Madonna - (alternate mix)
  20. Across The Universe - (take 2)
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 29, 2005, 06:02 »

Batles Anthology 1

Producers: John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, Richard Starkey, Jeff Lynne (disc 1, track 1); Bert Kaempfert (disc 1, tracks 10-12); George Martin (disc 1, tracks 14, 20-26; disc 2, tracks 8, 10-12, 17-26); Mike Smith (disc 1, tracks 15-19); Terry Henebery (disc 1, track 27); Klas Burling (disc 1, tracks 30-34); Jack Good (disc 2, tracks 13-16).

Compilation producer: George Martin.

DISC 1:
1.   Free As A Bird
2.   Speech: John Lennon
3.   That'll Be The Day - (mono, The Quarry Men)
4.   In Spite Of All The Danger - (mono, The Quarry Men)
5.   Speech: Paul McCartney
6.   Hallelujah, I Love Her So - (mono)
7.   You'll Be Mine - (mono)
8.   Cayenne - (mono)
9.   Speech: Paul
10.   My Bonnie - (with Tony Sheridan)
11.   Ain't She Sweet
12.   Cry For A Shadow
13.   Speech: John
14.   Speech: Brian Epstein
15.   Searchin' - (mono)
16.   Three Cool Cats - (mono)
17.   Sheik Of Araby, The - (mono)
18.   Like Dreamers Do - (mono)
19.   Hello Little Girl - (mono)
20.   Speech: Brian Epstein
21.   Besame Mucho - (mono)
22.   Love Me Do - (mono, alternate version, with Pete Best)
23.   How Do You Do It - (mono)
24.   Please Please Me - (mono, early version)
25.   One After 909 - (mono, false starts)
26.   One After 909 - (mono, 1963 version)
27.   Lend Me Your Comb - (mono)
28.   I'll Get You - (mono, live)
29.   Speech: John
30.   I Saw Her Standing There - (mono, live)
31.   From Me To You - (mono, live)
32.   Money (That's What I Want) - (mono, live)
33.   You Really Got A Hold On Me - (mono, live)
34.   Roll Over Beethoven - (mono, live)

DISC 2:
1.   She Loves You - (mono, live)
2.   Till There Was You - (mono, live)
3.   Twist And Shout - (mono, live)
4.   This Boy - (mono, from "The Morecambe And Wise Show")
5.   I Want To Hold Your Hand - (mono, from "The Morecambe And Wise Show")
6.   Speech: Eric Morecambe And Ernie Wise
7.   Moonlight Bay - (mono, from "The Morecambe And Wise Show")
8.   Can't Buy Me Love - (alternate take)
9.   All My Loving - (mono, live, from "The Ed Sullivan Show")
10.   You Can't Do That - (alternate take)
11.   And I Love Her - (alternate version)
12.   Hard Day's Night, A - (alternate take)
13.   I Wanna Be Your Man - (from "Around The Beatles" TV show)
14.   Long Tall Sally - (from "Around The Beatles" TV show)
15.   Boys - (from "Around The Beatles" TV show)
16.   Shout - (from "Around The Beatles" TV show)
17.   I'll Be Back - (demo)
18.   I'll Be Back - (alternate take)
19.   You Know What To Do - (demo)
20.   No Reply - (demo)
21.   Mr. Moonlight - (alternate version)
22.   Leave My Kitten Alone
23.   No Reply - (alternate take)
24.   Eight Days A Week - (false starts)
25.   Eight Days A Week - (alternate take)
26.   Kansas City / Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey! - (alternate take)
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 30, 2005, 07:02 »

Quote from: "Judemac"
Has Jeff Lynne ever worked with Sir George Martin? I do know that Jeff helped out on The Beatles Anthology material after George was said to be ill & could not handle it.


According to Paul McCartney on Martin's lack of involvement (from Bass Player magazine):  "George wasn't involved, no. George doesn't want to produce much any more 'cause his hearing's not as good as it used to be. He's a very sensible guy, and he says [plummy voice again] 'Look, Paul I like to do a proper job', and if he doesn't feel he's up to it he won't do it. It's very noble of him, actually - most people would take the money and run."
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 25, 2005, 10:56 »

George was not involved, no... in what? Provide the punchline of the quote.
How are we meant to know if Paul is talking about Anthology or Drivin Rain.
Also, if Jeff Lynne did do most of the production work, how come he did not
get credited for it? Considering the importance of the project, the evident
credits for everything else, why cut the story short and sell the product cheap?
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 28, 2005, 10:15 »

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George was not involved, no... in what? Provide the punchline of the quote.
How are we meant to know if Paul is talking about Anthology or Drivin Rain.
Also, if Jeff Lynne did do most of the production work, how come he did not
get credited for it? Considering the importance of the project, the evident
credits for everything else, why cut the story short and sell the product cheap?


Jeff worked on "Free As A Bird" and "Real Love" which George Martin declined to be part of. These "new" tunes were part of the anthology project.
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 31, 2005, 08:43 »

what about flaming pie ? ... they both produced it right? .. maybe they worked together


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« Reply #9 on: Sep 01, 2005, 02:32 »

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what about flaming pie ? ... they both produced it right? .. maybe they worked together


///Utter


I have the liner notes right here. George and Paul co-produced some songs and Jeff and Paul co-produced some songs, but never Jeff and George.

Paul/Jeff-produced:
The Song We Were Singing
The World Tonight
Flaming Pie
Heaven on a Sunday
Really Love You
Beautiful Night
Souvenir
Little Willow
Really Love You

Paul/George produced:
Calico Skies
Great Day

All the rest were produced by Paul alone.

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« Reply #10 on: Sep 01, 2005, 02:43 »

Quote from: "ELOISM"
George was not involved, no... in what? Provide the punchline of the quote.
How are we meant to know if Paul is talking about Anthology or Drivin Rain.
Also, if Jeff Lynne did do most of the production work, how come he did not
get credited for it? Considering the importance of the project, the evident
credits for everything else, why cut the story short and sell the product cheap?


Here are the lines following that quote:

"Plus George Harrison was keen to make sure we had someone really current with ears. He knew Jeff Lynne. I was worried there might be a bit of a wedge but in fact it wasn't like that, it was great. Jeff worked out really well. As I said to him, a lot of people are very wary of your sound. I said, you've got a sound. He said, Oh have I? He's got a way of working but it's very similar to some of the ways we worked in the Beatles. "

Source: http://reunionsessions.tripod.com/al/faabsessions/1994a.html

Friday 11 February 1994 (and periodically until the end of the month)
The Mill Studio, Sussex England: time unknown. Recording: 'Free As A Bird' (takes unknown); 'Real Love' (takes unknown); 'Grow Old With Me' (takes unknown); 'Now And Then' (takes unknown).
P: George Harrison, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Jeff Lynne. E: Geoff Emerick.

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« Reply #11 on: Sep 07, 2005, 03:21 »

I am out of town and I forgot my password.
It is common knowledge that Jeff Lynne co-produced
those new Beatles songs. I know about that.
The matter was raised questioning whether or not
he was involved in work on the other vault material.
No. George Martin and the three and probably Neil
were incharge of looking at the other material and
preparing it for release. I doubt Jeff Lynne was fiddling
with the faders and equalizers on the vault material.
I do however feel that it was disgraceful that Jeff got
to sing on the backing of Free as a Bird. He is not
credited for it but Paul McCartney said he is on it.
Somehow that just does not seem right.  ELOISM.
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 21, 2005, 12:45 »

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I am out of town and I forgot my password.
It is common knowledge that Jeff Lynne co-produced
those new Beatles songs. I know about that.
The matter was raised questioning whether or not
he was involved in work on the other vault material.
No. George Martin and the three and probably Neil
were incharge of looking at the other material and
preparing it for release. I doubt Jeff Lynne was fiddling
with the faders and equalizers on the vault material.
I do however feel that it was disgraceful that Jeff got
to sing on the backing of Free as a Bird. He is not
credited for it but Paul McCartney said he is on it.
Somehow that just does not seem right.  ELOISM.


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